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Because it's the least notable thing about the guy. I imagine most of the individuals in 9th-century Europe who became parents are direct ancestors of a large chunk of the present-day European population. Remsense ‥ 论21:45, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can definitely see that. But still I have seen tons of sources mention this or talk about this.
I just can’t seem to find an article about this and don’t know if any Wikipedia articles touch on this or not. When this thing appears to mentioned a lot in various sources.CycoMa2 (talk) 21:52, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am aware of Royal Descent page. But either I am too busy with school work or I don’t see any mention of most Europeans being descendants of Charlemagne.
Except this:
There has been a long tradition for royalty predominantly to intermarry those of their own class. As a result, the ruling houses of Europe have tended to be closely related to one another, and descent from a particular monarch will be found in many dynasties – all present European monarchs, and a great many pretenders, are genealogical descendants of William the Conqueror (1028–1087), for example, and further back in time of Charlemagne(742/747/748–814). Through Charlemagne, some researchers have even speculated on descent from antiquity.
The practice of restrictive marriages has been noted as increasing over the years until the 20th century: the passage of time strengthened the conviction that royalty only allied with royalty, and from the 16th century marriages between royal and commoner became rarer and rarer. This is one reason why descent from more recent monarchs is rarer amongst commoners than from monarchs further back.
Members of untitled families today may be descended from illegitimate children of royalty. Seldom permitted to marry into other royal families, these children tended to marry into upper-class or middle-class families within their own countries.
"Charlemagne has been the subject of artworks, monuments and literature during and after the medieval period and is venerated by the Catholic Church."
The veneration could be doubted as in "Held in respect" had it not linked directly to the page on beatification.
The actions of an Anti-Pope do not reflect on the Catholic Church and her official teachings. The beatification on an individual must be done with the permission of the Holy See, and as Paschal III was an Anti-Pope, this condition was not met. Therefore, he was not Venerated by the Catholic Church in the sense where "Veneration" is related to the state of Beatification. Cleric of Vecna (talk) 16:47, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The old version claimed Charlemagne was born in Aachen, Germany or Herstal (in present-day Belgium), which was contrary to the current Wikipedia page, whereas the Frankish palaces in Vaires-sur-Marne and Quierzy have also been proposed as possible birthplaces in the current version. Alleged editor (talk) 13:54, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What is the source for the name pronunciation? I feel like it is wrong - the original french pronunciation does not end in "main" but in something closer to "ma-nie". I don't know the rules about default pronunciation on Wikipedia (do we take that of original language or wiki language?), so this might be the english vernacular pronunciation - but even if it is the case, I don't think you're supposed to say "charle-main" in english? DommageCritique (talk) 06:08, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
level-3 vital article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
The hook and the article have no problems; this is my second review, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. TheNuggeteer (talk) 03:20, 25 June 2024 (UTC)